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saga ([personal profile] saga) wrote in [community profile] tofuhouse2015-11-14 06:54 pm
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alternative browsers

And how to make them function like Firefox and Chrome. This is here for people who find that Firefox and Chrome's functions might not be suitable for them, but don't know where to start! In no means does this mean that Firefox and Chrome are bad, cos they do update frequently. But sometimes you just want more variety because of (insert a reason here.)

If you want your browsers to function like FF or Chrome and be able to use their add-ons and extensions, then this list is here 4 u. Note that this is made with Dreamwidth usage in mind, and also that my add-ons/extensions aren't the same as yours. This is just a resource list.

Firefox Alternatives

PALE MOON: A Firefox fork, lately it's been gradually moving away from Firefox. However, most of the add-ons still work. Also, as a Firefox fork, it looks like old Firefox pre-Australis. It's primarily on every other OS but Macintosh, however there is a volunteer who made a Mac build, it's just not as updated as the others.

Main Site + Downloads (Win + Linux) | Mac Versions (pick the latest builds)

Important Add-ons and Settings to get it working like your Firefox (should you want it to)

Add-ons:
Pale Moon Commander: Adds extra options in the form of "Advanced Options". You'll need this to change the tabs menu from thumbnails to drop down text if you prefer (like me)
Ad Block Latitude: Ad block fork, since the original Ad Block Pro/Plus for Firefox doesn't work on Pale Moon. Made by Pale Moon team.
--- Alternatively, there's also uBlock Origin.
Developer Tools: As Pale Moon 27 and onwards will remove the built in devtools (like Inspect Element) that came with Firefox, they made this in add-on form.
LJLogin: As it is unsigned, it will eventually no longer work on Firefox. It does work for the beta version of the Pale Moon major updates (thus far). Can use with Dreamwidth!

Settings:
Insert related tabs after Current Tab: If you prefer new tabs to be opened right after the current tab you opened the new link in, instead of having it go to the end of the tab list, then check this in Options -> Tabs.
Getting rid of Status Bar and moving options up: If you're used to newer Firefox's way of putting all the options up at the top and nuking the status bar, this is how you do it.
Pale Moon Profile Migration Tool: If you wanna transfer your original FF profile over, this can help you!
Bookmarks: I don't use bookmarks, but I've been told it's very easy to transfer in from Firefox!
1. Back up your bookmarks in Firefox to desktop
2. On Pale Moon: Restore -> Choose File Option

WATERFOX: This is a direct fork off Firefox, if I recall correctly. It didn't have a Mac version before, but now it does! I haven't tried it out personally, but I know others who have and say it's wonderful. Also it will allow unsigned add-ons like LJ-Login. However, it only works with 64bit Windows, and if you use a 32bit only system, you'll have to stick with Pale Moon (or super old Firefox). Anyway if you still got Firefox and you install Waterfox, everything from your Firefox will be ready in Waterfox, including add-ons. Because of this you can't use Waterfox at the same time as Firefox, but you can use it at the same time as Pale Moon (for heavy browser users who like two browsers)

Main Site + Downloads (Win, Mac) | Android | iOS

Add-ons:
I think all you need to do is just go to the Firefox Add-on page and that's it? So I am told! Ditto with going to unsigned add-on pages and it will be fine. I know not everyone will need it, but some people might need:
Classic Theme Restorer: if you like the themes pre-Australis or need the status bar, this is it. I'm not sure if Waterfox kept the statusbar, but I'm leaving this here in case because we needed it for Firefox.
LJ-Juggler: Chrome's extension is now available on Firefox! Can use with Dreamwidth! Current Waterfox has been unable to use LJ-Login for some reason, and it's probably because it's outdated. LJ-Juggler is fine though, because of Firefox's recent updates that allow Chrome extensions to be ported over. Unfortunately, LJ-Juggler doesn't work on Pale Moon.

Chrome Alternatives

OPERA: Opera has changed a lot since it once was, having adopted the same engine as Chrome. While this makes old Opera users yearn for days of old (like a good number of Firefox users), this actually makes it a suitable alternative for Chrome because they're practically the same, only that Opera has a drop-down menu for its tabs even after they're squished tiny like Chrome tabs (the one thing that power users or tab abusers [like me] dislike about Chrome; no other way to navigate squished tabs in default form.)

Main Site + Downloads (Win, Linux, Mac, mobile OS's)

Important Add-ons and Extensions to get it working like your Chrome (should you want it to)
Opera has its own Add-ons and Extensions page where you can get Ad Block Plus and Disconnect and the like, so search them up. However, for Chrome Extensions that aren't available for Opera?

Extensions:
Download Chrome Extensions: As Opera and Chrome share a similar system, use this to turn the Chrome Extensions website into "Install for Opera". Try it now for--
LJ-Juggler: This is a Chrome Extension you can install using the above add-on. Can use with Dreamwidth!



This post will be constantly updated because of new developments, such as word about the browser Vivaldi (apparently for power users) allowing Chrome Extensions to be installed. And maybe if more new browsers crop up (but I'll only put up ones I feel are pretty decent alternatives, so should be long-lived at least!). Feel free to make some suggestions with how you got it working like the above, since I know some like Cent Browser is also used.
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[personal profile] refu 2015-12-17 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this compilation. I had no idea you could install Chrome extensions in Opera, but boy, that does sound promising! :-)
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[personal profile] laughing_girl 2015-12-22 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this. I'm going to give both Pale Moon and Waterfox a try. It's not like I have anything to lose right now... Firefox is now unusable for at least a fifth of what I used it for.
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[personal profile] laughing_girl 2015-12-23 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm planning to install Pale Moon too, just in case I need a backup. But for now it's nice Waterfox was so easy to switch over to, as that keeps me from getting too far behind on things with all of this.

And speaking as the relative of someone who has a Chromebook... ugh. Clearly, Firefox has become delusional if it wants to be that.
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(Same person, just switched to my RL journal instead of a RP one)

[personal profile] whitedove01s 2016-01-01 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
The Evil Overlord (aka my biological mother that I unfortunately share a house with) bought a Chromebook some time back on the grounds that she just wanted something to surf a bit and maybe watch videos on.

That's exactly what she got. She even has to hand me her debit card and a list and I have to do monthly shopping on Walmart.com for her because she can't get Chrome to let Walmart's checkout page work. Now, I really don't know how much of it is her technological incompetence (she refuses to learn even simple things like how to cut and paste) and how much is Chrome itself... but that and other random things she's mentioned have been enough to make me wary of the device and all its kin.

The only thing worse was the Android tablet I bought, and I think that's more a hardware than a software issue. The antenna must be defective, as it wouldn't connect to the internet even laying on top of the router box. That's what I get for buying a no-name device on sale... at least it makes a good notepad/alarm clock!

I seem to have a weird love/hate relationship with technology. Back in the ol' Windows 3.1 days, I somehow did something to Autoexec.bat so that Windows would not run unless booted from the DosShell program. I never found out just what, as it corrected itself later. I'm competent enough to install my own hardware, and have used Linux... but if there is a bug in the system, I'm almost guaranteed to stumble on it eventually. XD
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to verify for you that no, you can't install Waterfox on a 32bit system, as I found out earlier tonight. I haven't tried Pale Moon yet, but I'm tempted to if only because ljlogin is something I use frequently throughout the day and worth trying to get a fix for. I saw [livejournal.com profile] slarti was mentioning something about trying to legitimize the ljlogin code and I don't know what I can offer them to get them to go through with it, but I wish they would.

I hope Pale Moon works on a 32bit, otherwise I'm doomed to keep the backdated version of FF.
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I've gotten Pale Moon uploaded as the 32bit and it seems to be working pretty well. I used Pale Moon Profile Migration to transfer my FF settings and whatnot to Pale Moon and outside of having to enable the new adblocking system and my color setting/ljlogin, it all settled pretty easily, including tabs I'd had in FF open. You'll have to re-enter all your ljlogin accounts as unlike a synced ff, it doesn't transfer it all over, but I think once you sync it up, it should work as FF's does in the future.

The only thing I'm a little enh over is trying to get rid of an unnecessary bar up on top: Seen here. Outside of that? It's running perfectly. =)
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think so. I've pretty much gone through everything clicking/unclicking everything I can, so unless it's some secret hidden options, which to be fair, it could be, I'll just have to get used to it. I probably will in a few days (I do to all the changes), but it's just that kneejerk GET OFF MY LAWN old coot kind of reaction to new things.
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It should be noted that apparently you can't use Youtube in Pale Moon. =|
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It magically let me use it, but it originally told me when I went to the site that my browser was obsolete. Apparently it doesn't know squat.
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it may have been a PM thing since it was like "Your browser is obsolete. Please download one of our supported ones." with links to chrome, firefox, and ie explorer, which made me laugh. Could have just been new browser stretches, but hey, I'm just happy I have something I'm used to using that still has ljlogin. I'm kind of bummed FF decided to just nix that.
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[personal profile] wikkidbubbles 2016-01-27 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
FF, why have you forsaken meeeeee?
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[personal profile] mythicgeek 2016-04-30 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to use Watermoon and everything ported over nicely, just by installing and opening the browser...

Except that after all that, LJLogin doesn't even work now. It won't let me add any accounts; I can't even add Dreamwidth. It shows up in my taskbar and I can click and get to preferences but everything is greyed out and I can't make any changes.

I uninstalled it and reinstalled it and no dice. Anyone else have this issue? I have Windows 10, if that makes any difference.
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[personal profile] mythicgeek 2016-06-06 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'm not a fan of LJ Juggler, so I'll reserve that for a last resort, but it's good to know. Thanks again!